Need information on Manuel/Manoel De Souza (De) Amorim - Távora (Santa Maria) - Arcos de Valdevez

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Need information on Manuel/Manoel De Souza (De) Amorim - Távora (Santa Maria) - Arcos de Valdevez

#373032 | MathieuTlse | 09 août 2016 10:47

Hello.

Sorry for not being able to speak in Portuguese.

I am looking for the birth or baptism certificate or any information on my great grand father Manoel (or Manuel) De Souza Amorim born the 16/05/1896 or the 6/06/1898. His father was Antonio José De Amorim and his mother was Maria De Souza.

He travelled to Brazil around 1920. He came back in France around 1921 and died in France in 1974.

Information that my grandmother gave me is that he travelled with his brother's passport because he deserted from military obligations

If you could please help me, that would be great. I have no other clue to find anything from him.

Thank you so much.
Mathieu B.

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#373033 | saintclair | 09 août 2016 10:55 | In reply to: #373032

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http://tombo.pt/f/avv37
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/T%C3%A1vora_%28Santa_Maria_e_S%C3%A3o_Vicente%29
https://pt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Santa_Maria_de_T%C3%A1vora
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#373034 | saintclair | 09 août 2016 10:57 | In reply to: #373033

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http://digitarq.advct.arquivos.pt/viewer?id=1096320
http://digitarq.advct.arquivos.pt/details?id=1096320

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#373035 | MathieuTlse | 09 août 2016 11:34 | In reply to: #373032

Thank you BUT the quality of the scans does not permit to look in these documents. :(

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#373036 | saintclair | 09 août 2016 11:43 | In reply to: #373035

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Anomaly computer?
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#373037 | MathieuTlse | 09 août 2016 11:54 | In reply to: #373036

No.
1 - The handwriting in this document is very hard to read.
2 - The scan quality is not very good too.

(And it is of course in Portuguese, it does not help)

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#373038 | saintclair | 09 août 2016 12:03 | In reply to: #373037

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...Will ask for help from someone who understands
Portuguese language.
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#373039 | MathieuTlse | 09 août 2016 12:08 | In reply to: #373038

I asked a Brazilian colleague, he is not able to read it either, it is not a language issue.

I will try to decipher it and at least find the right page.

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#373040 | saintclair | 09 août 2016 12:12 | In reply to: #373039

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The Brazilian colleague can write
theme?

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#373042 | MathieuTlse | 09 août 2016 12:20 | In reply to: #373040

What to do you mean ?

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#373043 | mila1000 | 09 août 2016 12:22 | In reply to: #373032

Mathieu,

I found Manuel on 1896,May 20 ,but the father´s name was Miguel Jose D àmorim and mother´s name was Rozaria.
On 1898,June 06 I found Domingos.

look for here;

http://tombo.pt/f/avv37


http://digitarq.advct.arquivos.pt/viewer?id=1096320

image 188.tif – 20/05/1896 :Manuel,father Miguel José DÁmorim and mother Rozaria Dantas

image 224.tif-08/06/1898 :Domingos-father Miguel,mother Rozaria


Miguel and Rozaria -wedding
Image 42.tif
http://digitarq.advct.arquivos.pt/viewer?id=1096655

Manoel Antonio D Amorim and Rosa Pereira 45.tif

Antonio Manuel DÁmorim X Maria de Jesus 66.tif


Sorry...

Mila

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#373044 | MathieuTlse | 09 août 2016 12:28 | In reply to: #373032

Thank you so much for your help.

It looks like my great grand father is full of secret...

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#373045 | MathieuTlse | 09 août 2016 12:47 | In reply to: #373044

OK, based on the information you gave me, I am quite sure that is my great grandfather. Thank you Mila.

There are two wedding for Antonio Manoel D'Amorim, how is it possible to know which one is the correct one ?

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#373046 | mila1000 | 09 août 2016 15:09 | In reply to: #373032

ask about Manuel with your grandfather or father.

Manuel had another brother/sister ? ( names of them)


Mila

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#373047 | MathieuTlse | 09 août 2016 15:29 | In reply to: #373046

My grand mother (daughter of Manuel) is dead.
And my father does not know much about this Portuguese part of the family.

My great-grand-mother is not one of the women you mentionned above (she was French).

So it looks like that my great-grand-father had an other family in Portugal, I will try to decipher the pages regarding the two weddings.

Regards,
Mathieu

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#373049 | mila1000 | 09 août 2016 16:13 | In reply to: #373032

Look this topic… same search…Antonio Jose Amorim
http://geneall.net/en/forum/156574/procuro-familiar-emigrado-para-o-brasil-em-1914/

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#373050 | MathieuTlse | 09 août 2016 16:55 | In reply to: #373032

I have sent a message to this person. Thanks. :)

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