RE: Familia O'Neill
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RE: Familia O'Neill
Caro Vasco
O meu cunhado João deve saber. Eu tenho, aliás, a árvore dele.
Em qualquer caso, posso recorrer ao Hugo O´Neill, primo do João, que como sabe é o chefe. Disponha sempre.
Um abraço
Artur João
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RE: Familia O'Neill
Vasco,
Seque uma genealogia da linha portuguesa o'neill q em tempos tirei dum site do clan.
Abraço
AEDH METH “the Fat” [K. of Northern Ireland 1196-1230,
Royal Heir of Ireland], also styled K. of Ulster and K. of
Cenel Eoghain or Tir Eoghain, forced John de Courcy to
abandon an attempted invasion of Tyrone in 1199 by sailing
to Larne, burning the town, and routing the Anglo-Norman
force. He smashed another invasion of Tyrone in 1200, but
was himself defeated in 1201 by Cathal Carrach “the Scabby”
O’Conor [K. of Connaught] together with a Norman force
under William de Bourg. He was deposed but resumed the
throne when his successor, Conor Mac Lochlainn, was killed
by the O’Donells late the same year. He was addressed as
“King of Ulster” by King John of England. John later created
Hugh de Lacy Earl of Ulster; De Lacy invaded without
success in 1207. AEDH visted King John at Carrickfergus
in 1210, receiving two hostages as safe conduct. He won a
great victory over John de Grey, the Justiciar, in 1211, burned
Grey’s new castle at Clones the following year, and sacked the
English town of Carlingford (in Ulster) in 1214. He supported
his old enemy, Hugh de Lacy, who was in rebellion
in 1222, and razed the English castle at Coleraine. He made
peace with William the Marshal [E. of Pembroke] in 1224, and
the following year led an army to put Turlough O’Conor on
the throne of Connaught. AEDH d. peacefully in 1230,
though it was recorded in the Annals of Ulster that he was
“the person whom it was least thought would find death other
than at the hands of the foreigners.” He m. Beanmidhe (d.
1215), daughter of Ua h’Eignigh (O’Hegny of Fermanagh)
[K. of Oriel], and by her had a son,
DOMNALL OG “the Young” [K. of Northern Ireland
1231-34, Royal Heir of Ireland], more often styled K.
of Cenel Eoghain or Tir Eoghain — that being the immediate
realm which he ruled personally, as opposed to all the northern
lands of which he was suzerain or over-king. He deposed
his predecessor, King Domnall MacLochalinn, in
1231, but was killed by him in 1234. He m. Cicely (d.
1250), daughter of Mac Lochlainn [K. of Cenel Eoghain]
and sister (or cousin) of his killer, and by her had issue:
+ 1. AEDH BUIDH “the Yellow” [K. of Aileach]
2. NIALL CULANACH “Behind-Comer” [K. of Cenel
Eoghain 1261-63 & 1286-91], who expelled his older
brother and seized the throne in 1261, but was deposed
again in 1263. He sought the support of
Richard de Bourg, the “Red Eal of Ulster,” and
deposed and took the place of his cousin, King
Domnall O’Neill, in 1286. Domnall drove him out
in 1290; he returned with De Bourg and overthrew
Domnall again in 1291, but was killed by Domnall’s
supporters. He is supposed to have left a daughter
who m. Giollaiosa Ruadh “the Red” O’Reilly, dynast
of East Breffny (d. 1330), who founded the Abbey
of Cavan.
AEDH BUIDH “the Yellow” [K. of Aileach 1260-83], the
last king so styled, and more commonly known as K. of
Cenel Eoghain, was (according to the Annals of the Four
Masters) “head of the liberality and valor of the Irish, the most
distinguished in the North for bestowing jewels and riches,
the most formidable and victorious.” His lands were laid
waste by King Domnall Og O’Donell when the Cenel Eoghain
were weakened by their terrible losses at the Battle of Down in
1260 (where his cousin, Brian O’Neill, last K. of Ireland,
also died). AEDH was deposed and banished in favor of
his brother, NIALL CULANACH, in 1261 but was restored
in 1263; the same year, he sent ambassadors to Haakon [K. of
Norway], offering him the crown of Ireland if he would come
and expel the English. In 1275, he routed William FitzWarine,
the Seneschal of England, and took the heads of 200 of the
enemy. He finally defeated and killed King Domnall Og
O’Donell near Dungannon in 1281, but was himself killed in
1283 by Brian MacMahon [K. of Oriel] and Giollaiosa Ruadh
“the Red” O’Reilly, dynast of East Breffny. AEDH was the
namesake of the Clann Aedh Buidhe, or “Clannaboy.” He m.
a daughter (name unknown) of Mac Oisdealbhaigh (Mac
Costello, who was probably the “Irished” Norman baron
Philip de Nangle), and left a son,
BRIAN [K. of Cenel Eoghain 1291-95], who found
it necessary to seek an alliance with Richard Du Bourg
against his cousin, King Domnall O’Neill — who, however,
defeated and killed him in 1295. He left issue:
+ 1. HENRY [K. of Ulster]
2. AEDH, who in 1359 killed Muircheartach O’Flynn
of Moylinny [Heir-Apparent of Ui Tuitre], into whose
lands the O’Neills were expanding on the River Bann.
3. DOMNALL DONN “the Brown,” ancestor of Clann
Domhnuill Donn, who replaced the O’Flynns as lords
of Ui Tuirtre (Toome in Antrim & Loughinsholin in
Derry).
HENRY [K. of Ulster 1325-44, Chief or Prince of
Clannaboy], took advantage of the attack by Edward Bruce
[K. of Scots] on the English in Ireland in 1318, and the murder
of the “Red Earl’s” successor in 1333, to expand and consolidate
east of the River Bann north and south of Lough
Neagh, establishing his own local realm (Clannaboy); he became
K. of Cenel Eoghain, and thus over-king of Northern
Ireland, in 1325. He was deposed in 1344 by the late King
Domnall’s son, Aedh O’Neill, who was assisted by Sir Ralph
d’Ufford, the Justiciar. Defeating an invasion of Clannaboy
itself in 1345 by King Aedh O’Neill, who escaped with difficulty
to his ships on Lough Neagh, he ruled thereafter only
in his new territory of Clannaboy, and d. 1347, leaving two
sons:
1. BRIAN [Chief or Prince of Clannaboy 1347-69], who
was taken prisoner as Tanist of Clannaboy in 1327 by
Robert Savage and was handed over to the English
at Carrickfergus. He defeated an invasion of
Clannaboy by his kinsman and nominal overlord,
AEDH O’NEILL [K. of Ulster], in 1354. He d.
1369.
+ 2. MUIRCHEARTACH CENNFHADA “Long-Head”
[Chief or Prince of Clannaboy]
MUIRCHEARTACH CENNFHADA “Long-Head” [Chief
or Prince of Clannaboy 1369-95], styled MAC UI NEILL
BUIDHE (“The O’Neill Buidhe”) to distinguish him from
the junior branch represented by NIALL OG “the Young,”
who was styled “The Great O’Neill.” This line inaugurated
its chiefs in the fortress of Castlereagh on a rough stone
throne (preserved in the Belfast Museum), and reigned from
the Ardes to Lough Neagh and from Dufferin to the Glens of
Antrim, including Belfast, Lisburne, and Carrickfergus.
MUIRCHEARTACH secured his territory against the English
viceroy, Edmund Mortimer [E. of March & Ulster],
who invaded western Ulster in 1381. With the aid of NIALL
O’NEILL [K. of Ulster], he also suppressed a rebellion by
the English in Clannaboy (led by the Savages) in 1383. He
d. 1395. He m. Agnes O’Cathan, daughter of Cumach
O’Cathan [Under-king of Glengiven] and widow of Angus
Macdonald [Lord of the Islaes 1308-30], and by her had a
son,
BRIAN O’NEILL BALLACH “the Freckled” [Chief
or Prince of Clannaboy 1395-1425], styled “The O’Neill
Buidhe,” captured his kinsman EOGHAN O’NEILL [Tanist
of Ulster] in 1421, for whom he accepted from the latter’s
family a ransom of horses and cattle; he was made to surrender
his prizes a few months later, however, by an army led
by DOMNALL O’NEILL [K. of Ulster]. BRIAN was one
of the Irish chiefs who happened to be in the house of the
Earl of March when the earl died, and was seized with the
others by John Talbot [Lord Furnivall, afterward 1st E. of
Shrewsbury]. All were taken as prisoners to Dublin but released
in 1425. He was murdered by the townspeople of
Carrickfergus the same year; a large “eric” of blood money
was levied annually on Carrickfergus in revenge by the
O’Neills until 1581 (156 years). He had issue:
1. HENRY O’NEILL CAECH “the Blind,” who became
“The O’Neill Buidhe” but was blinded by his
brothers in 1426 and d. 1465. He was the ancestor of
the Sliocht Henry Caech.
+ 2 AEDH O’NEILL BUIDH “the Yellow” [Chief or
Prince of Clannaboy]
3. MUIRCHEARTACH O’NEILL RUADH “the Red”
[Chief or Prince of Clannaboy 1444- 71], who cut a
passage through a wood in Dufferin in 1444 and ambushed
the invading army of his kinsman EOGHAN
O’NEILL [K. of Ulster]. His son, FEIDHLIMIDH
O’NEILL, was killed in 1497 at Rasharkan by his
cousin, Domnall O’Neill.
4 BRIAN O’NEILL GALLDA “the Foreigner”
5. CU-ULADH O’NEILL BALLACH “the Freckled,”
ancestor of the “Muinter na Coille Iachtaraighe”
(the O’Neills of Killeiter).
6. NIALL O’NEILL GALLDA “the Foreigner,” ancestor
of the “Muinter na Coille Ultaigh” (the
O’Neills of Killultagh).
AEDH O’NEILL BUIDH “the Yellow” [Chief or Prince of
Clannaboy 1426-44, Royal Heir of Ireland], styled “The
O’Neill Buidh,” was (according to the Annals of the Four
Masters) “the most renowned, hospitable, and valorous of the
princes of Ireland in his time,” who “planted more of the
lands of the English, in despite of them, than any other man
of his day.” He was wounded by a javelin at Iveagh and
died in agony after 24 days, on the second day of summer,
1444, having “vanquished the world and the Devil.” He m.
Fionnguala O’Connor, daughter of Calvagh O’Connor Faly
[Dynast of Offaly] and widow of Niall O’Donell Garbh “the
Rough” [K. of Tirconaill 1422-39]. She was regarded as
“the most beautiful and stately, the most renowned and illustrious
woman of her time in all Ireland, her mother only
excepted”; she became a nun at Killeigh in 1447 and d. 25
Jul 1493. By her he had issue:
+ 1. CONN O’NEILL [Chief or Prince of Clannaboy]
2. AEDH O’NEILL OG “the Young” [Chief or Prince
of Clannaboy 1482-85], who went raiding into Lecale
in 1485 but was overtaken by the English and killed,
leaving issue.
3. EOGHAN O’NEILL, ancestor of Sliocht Eoghain in
Clannaboy.
4. BRIAN O’NEILL, who d. 1488, leaving issue.
CONN O’NEILL [Chief or Prince of Clannaboy 1471-82,
Royal Heir of Ulster], styled “The O’Neill Buidh,” killed
Eoin McDonnell in 1465, defeated the English in Lecale in
1468 and captured his own uncle MUIRCHEARTACH “the
Red” the same year, subdued the MacQuillins in the Route
in 1472 and killed their chief, Corman, and captured and
blinded Mac-an-t-Sabhaoisigh (Patrick Savage of Lecale) in
1481. He died 1482. The Tower of Edenduffcarrick, now
called “Shane’s Castle,” is still the home of his descendants,
the lords O’Neill. He m. Mary McDonnell (d. 1488), daughter
of Sir Donald McDonnell Ballach “the Freckled” [Lord
of Kintyre & the Glens of Antrim], and by her had issue:
+ 1. NIALL O’NEILL MOR “the Great” [Chief or Prince
of Clannaboy]
2. EOGHAN O’NEILL RUADH “the Red” (d. 1509),
who left issue.
3. ART O’NEILL, who raided Henry O’Neill in Tyrone
in 1489.
NIALL O’NEILL MOR “the Great” [Chief or Prince of
Clannaboy 1485-1512, Royal Heir of Ulster], whose castle
of Edenduffcarrisk was burned and his lands ravaged by his
cousin, FEIDLIMIDH O’NEILL in 1490. In 1503, he led a
large army across the Bann and campaigned throughout Tir
Eoghain to assert his rights as Royal Heir. He was seized by
the English inhabitants of Carrickfergus in 1506 and was
required to give them 16 hostages, but he stormed the town
and castle, released his hostages, and imprisoned the Mayor.
He d. 11 Apr 1512; he was buried in the monastery of the
Friars Minors at Carrickfergus, of which he was a benefactor.
He m. Ingeandubh (d. 1494), daughter of Aed O’Donell
Ruadh “the Red” [K. of Tirconaill 1461-97], and by her had
issue:
+ 1. AEDH O’NEILL DUBH “the Black” [Chief or Prince
of Clannaboy]
+ 2. BRIAN O’NEILL BALLACH “the Freckled” [Chief
or Prince of Clannaboy]
+ 3. FEIDHLIMIDH O’NEILL BACACH “the Lame”
[Chief or Prince of Clannaboy]
+ 4. NIALL O’NEILL OG “the Young” [Chief or Prince
of Clannaboy]
5. DOMNALL O’NEILL, who left issue.
6. MUIRCHEARTACH O’NEILL, who left issue.
BRIAN O’NEILL BALLACH “the Freckled” [Chief or
Prince of Clannaboy 1524-29], killed treacherously in 1529
by Cormac MacQuillin. He m1. Sarah O’Neill, daughter of
The O’Neill of Tyrone; m2. Sibyl Maguire, daughter of The
Maguire of Fermanagh, leaving issue by both. By his 1st
wife he had a son,
MUIRCHEARTACH O’NEILL DOIBLENACH
(“Devlinagh”) [Chief or Prince of Clannaboy 1548-52],
probably received his nickname from being fostered by The
O’Devlin. He was the last chief to be properly inaugurated
according to the old laws of dynastic succession; he was
opposed by his cousin, AEDH O’NEILL, and reigned precariously
until AEDH hired 7,000 Scots under James
McDonnell and overran South Clannaboy. The English
appointed a sheriff and AEDH took the castles of Belfast
and Castlereagh. MUIRCHEARTACH held out in his North
Clannaboy fortresses of Edenduffcarrick, Toome, and
Portmore in Killultagh, but was gradually worn down and
was finally killed in 1552. A firm Roman Catholic, he m.
Margaret O’Byrne, daughter of The O’Byrne [Dynast of
South Wicklow], and had with other issue a son,
DOMNALL O’NEILL, to whose assistance came
CONN O’NEILL BACACH “the Lame” [K. of Ulster, 1st
E. of Tyrone] and his brothers, was nevertheless defeated in
1554 by his father’s enemy, AEDH O’NEILL, and d. ante
1567, leaving a son,
CONN O’NEILL BUIDH “the Yellow,” received a grant
from King James I of several thousand acres in Tyrone and
Armagh, including Creevelagh, Lislone, Mullaghineale, and
Ballynametagh, which had been forfeited by AEDH O’NEILL
[last K. of Ulster & E. of Tyrone] after the “Flight of the
Earls” in 1607 [SEE ABOVE]. However, he took part in a
plot c1615 to capture the fort of Charlemont where AEDH’s
son, CONN O’NEILL, was imprisoned, and was forfeited
himself. He d. c1630, leaving a son,
FEIDHLIMIDH O’NEILL DUBH (“Felim the
Black”), who returned to the Feevagh in Clannaboy, from
which Martha Stafford (Sir Henry O’Neill’s widow) tried to
evict him from his patrimony in 1640. He seized Sir Edmund
Stafford’s lands there the following year and took an active
part in the great Rising (led by the O’Neills) which began in
1641. He held the fort of Maryborough against Lord
Castlehaven until he was forced to surrender in 1646 through
treachery in his own garrison; he received a safe conduct
for himself, his wife, and his brother. He distinguished himself
in 1649 as a colonel under his kinsman, the Irish patriot
OWEN O’NEILL ROE, and fought against Cromwell in
1650. He m. a daughter of Feidhlimidh O’Neill Dubh of
Killutagh and of Mary O’Neill, daughter of Conn O’Neill
of Castlereagh, and left a son, EIMHER (Ever) O’NEILL, a
captain in the Irish Catholic army, who m. c1670 to Catherine
O’Neill, daughter of Ever O’Neill of Killitragh, and had a
son,
FEIDHLIMIDH (Felim or Felix) O’NEILL, served
as a Jacobite ensign and took part in the blockade of Derry
(Londonderry) in Col. GORDON O’NEILL’S regiment in
1689. He fought against William of Orange at the Battle of
Boyne in 1690, fought at Aughrim and in the defense of
Limerick, and then sailed to France with his regiment, which
entered French service in 1691. He campaigned against
the Austrians 1692- 97, was promoted to lieutenant in 1698,
fought at Luzarra, Italy in 1702, was in the Battle of Spier
on the Rhine in 1703, assisted in the taking of Brisach and
Landau the same year, participated in the sieges of Vercelli,
Ivrea, and Verrua in 1704, fought in the Battle of Cassano
in 1705 (where 40 officers of the Regiment were killed), fought
at Calcinato in 1706, campaigned in Germany in 1707, served
under Berwick in the Dauphine in 1708, and was killed at
the Battle of Malplaquet, 11 Sep 1709, while serving with
the Irish Brigade fighting against the English and Austrians
under Marlborough. He m1. Catherine Keating; m2. Joan
O’Dempsey (d. 17 Apr 1722), daughter of Terence
O’Dempsey [4th V. of Clanmalier], and had issue by both.
By his 1st wife, he had a son,
CONSTANTINE (Conn) O’NEILL, who lived in Dublin,
and m. Cecilia O’Hanlon, daughter of Capt. Felix O’Hanlon,
who was descended from a sister of AEDH O’NEILL [E.
of Tyrone, last K. of Ulster], and by her had three sons and
six daughters.
The eldest son, SEAN (Joao) O’NEILL, b. at Kilmore in
tyrone, settled near Almada, Portugal in 1740 (on the Tagus
opposite Lisbon), being well received as an exiled Catholic
nobleman. He m. 2 Sep 1750 to Valentina Ferreira, dau of
Jose Ferreira, and by her had three children:
1. CECILIA O’NEILL [prioress of the Convent of Irish
Sisters of Bone Successeo, near Lisbon].
2. ANNA O’NEILL [prioress of the Convent of Irish
Sisters of Bone Successeo, near Lisbon].
+3. CHARLES (Carlos) O’NEILL
CHARLES (Carlos) O’NEILL [Professed Knight of the Order
of Christ], was b. 11 Jun 1760 and educated at St. Omer.
He received King John VI of Portugal at his country house
near Setubal — “Quintas das Machadas,” still the country
home of The O’Neill, which came to him through his marriage.
He m. 17 Sep 1784 to Ana-Joao Torlade, daughter
and heir of Jacob Torlade (who was Hanseatic consul at
Setubal and the son of Heinrich Torlade, a judge and banker in
Hamburg). He d. 24 Jun 1835, leaving (with several daughters)
three sons:
+ 1. JOSE MARIA O’NEILL [Consul-Gen. of Denmark at
Lisbon]
2.JOAQUIMO’NEILL
3. HENRY O’NEILL
JOSE MARIA O’NEILL [Consul-Gen. of Denmark at Lisbon,
Knight Commander of the Order of Christ, Knight Commander
of the Order of Our Lady of the Conception of Villa
Vicosa], was b. 14 Apr 1788. He received Queen Maria II
& King Ferdinand of Portugal at his town house in Setubal.
He m. 11 Dec 1814 to Ludovina Alves Solano, daughter of
Antonio Alves, and by her had issue:
1. JOSE-CARLOS O’NEILL, b. 28 Jul 1816, who received
King Pedro V and later King Luis I of Portugal at
Quintas das Machadas; he dsp. 3 Aug 1889.
+ 2. JORGE TORLADES O’NEILL [Consul-Gen. of Greece
at Lisbon]
3. HENRY O’NEILL [Minister of Justice of Portugal; cr.
V. of Santa Monica, 28 Dec 1876; Knight Grand
Cordon of Our Lady of the Conception of Villa
Vicosa, Knight Grand Cross of the Rose of Brazil,
Knight Grand Cross of the Crown of Italy, Knight
Commander of the Legion of Honor of France, Grand
Officer of the Royal Household in Portugal], b. 3
May 1821; d. unmarried 6 Nov 1889, when the
viscountcy began extinct.
4. ANNICA O’NEILL, who m. Antonio Vinent [1st M. of
Vinet].
JORGE TORLADES O’NEILL [Consul-Gen. of Greece at
Lisbon, Hon. Consul of Belgium, Knight of the Rose of Bra-
zil, Knight Commander of the Order of the Dannebrog of
Denmark, Officer of the Order of Leopold of Belgium, Officer
of the Order of the Redeemer of Greece, Officer of the
Order of Christ, Officer of the Order of Our Lady of the
Conception of Villa Vicosa], who was b. 15 Dec 1817; d. 18
Nov 1890. He was a close friend and correspondent of Hans
Christian Andersen. He m. 20 Jul 1846 to Carolina Teresa
O’Neill (b. 1822?; d. 11 Nov 1893), his cousin and daughter
of Joaquim O’Neill, and by her had two sons:
+ 1. JORGE O’NEILL [Peer of Portugal, styled C. of
Tyrone]
2. ARTHUR O’NEILL, b. 15 Dec 1852; dsp. 9 Nov 1880.
He m. Maria da Gloria Brito de Carvalho Gorjao,
daughter of Francisco Gorjao.
3. CARLOS O’NEILL, who m. Adelaide Custance, daughter
of Thomas Parsons Custance, and by her left issue
which became extinct in the maile line ante 1950
[See “Annuario da Nobreza de Portugal” 1950 edition].
4. JOAQUIM O’NEILL, who m. Caroline Caffery, daughter of Patrick
John Caffery, and by her left issue which also became
extinct in the male line ante 1950 [See
“Annuario da Nobreza de Portugal” 1950 edition].
(He also left illeg. issue which still continues in the
male line.)
JORGE O’NEILL [Peer of Portugal, styled C. of Tyrone
from 1901 (SEE ABOVE); Knight of Malta, Knight Grand
Cross of the Papal Order of St. Gregory the Great, Knight
Grand Cross of the Order of Isabella of Spain, Officer of the
Legion of Honor of France, Grand Officer of the Royal
Household to the king of Portugal], “The O’Neill of
Clannaboy.” He was b. 15 Feb 1848; d. 11 Feb 1925. He
declined his king’s offer to recreate him a Portuguese count,
but was formally addressed as Most Serene Prince and Count
of Tyrone & Clannaboy — as heir male of the senior branch
of his family, former sovereign princes who had lost everything
for their Catholic Faith. He m. 14 Jul 1872 to Maria
Isabel Mazziotti Fernandez, daughter and heir of Jose
Gregoria Fernandez [Knight of the Order of Christ], an industrialist.
He left issue:
+ 1. HUGO JOSEPH JORGE EVER O’NEILL [“The
O’Neill of Clannaboy”]
2. JORGE ALBERT O’NEILL, b. 6 Dec 1874; dsp. 8 Dec
1900.
3. JOSE CARLOS MARIA O’NEILL, b. 8 Jan 1894; d. 2
Feb 1965. He m. 22 Jan 1931 to Annie Werner,
daughter of Jacob Werner, and left issue:
1. JORGE BERNARDO O’NEILL [“The O’Neill of
Clannaboy”], b. 22 Feb 1937.
2. ISABEL O’NEILL, b. 29 Jan 1939.
HUGO JOSEPH JORGE EVER O’NEILL, “The O’Neill of
Clannaboy” (recognized by the Chief Herald of Ireland) and
an officer in the Portuguese navy. He was b. 7 Jun 1874; d.
30 Mar 1940. He m. 14 Jan 1906 to Julia de Serpa Pimental
(d. 28 Feb 1934), daughter of Rear Admiral Fernando de
Serpa Pimental (younger son of the 2nd V. of Gouveia and
brother of the 1st Marques) and Maria Ana Vitoria de Sousa
Coutinho (daughter of Rodrigo de Sousa [3rd C. of Linhares]
and Ana Carlota de Mendoca). (NOTE: Ana Carlota de
Mendoca was the daughter of the radical Prime Minister of
Portugal, Nuno de Mendoca [1st D. of Loule] and the Infanta
Ana, daughter of John VI [K. of Portugal 1816-26 &
Emp. of Brazil 1816-22). By his wife Hugo left issue:
1. MARIA ANA O’NEILL, b. 30 Jul 1907; she m. 3 Jan
1929 to Joao Jose de Melo, younger son of the 12th
C. of Sao Lourenco and brother of the 4th M. of
Sabugosa.
+ 2. JORGE O’NEILL “The O’Neill of Clannaboy”
3. MARIA ISABEL O’NEILL, b. 30 Jul 1907; she m. 11
Apr 1929 to Antonio Vasco Jose de Melo [4th M. of
Sabugosa, 13th C. of Sao Lourenco].
+ 4. FERNANDO O’NEILL
JORGE O’NEILL [Chief or Prince of Clannaboy], “The
O’Neill of Clannaboy” (recognized by the Chief Herald of
Ireland and duly recorded at the Genealogical Office in Dublin
as heir male of the last properly inaugurated Chief or Prince
of the senior branch of the old royal house of Ulster), b. 7
Nov 1908. He m. Josefina Luisa Roquette Ricciardi, daughter
of Luis Rafael Feliciano da Conceicao Ricciardi (of a
Neopolitan noble family of Aversa) and Julieta Roquette (granddaughter
and heir of the 1st V. of Alvalade), and by her had
issue:
+ 1. HUGO O’NEILL [Chief or Prince of Clannaboy],
“The O’Neill of Clannaboy.”
2. MARIA MADALANA O’NEILL, b. 13 Sep 1940;
m. 7 Sep 1961 to Goncalo Diniz Pinheiro de Melo
(grandson of the 1st C. of Arnoso), and by him had
issue:
1. MARIA MADAENA O’NEILL, b. 30 Aug 1962.
2.ANAJOAOO’NEILL,b.25Mar1964.
3. GONZALO O’NEILL, b. 1 Dec 1965.
4. NUNO O’NEILL, b. 6 Nov 1966.
3. TERESA O’NEILL, b. 26 Mar 1942; m. 16 Sep
1966 to Luis Felipe da Camara Pina, son of Gen.
Luis Maria da Camara Pina and Martha Lima Mayer,
and by him had issue:
1. MARTA O’NEILL, b. 27 Aug 1967.
2. MARIA O’NEILL, b. 19 Jul 1969.
4. MARGARIDA O’NEILL, b. 18 Jan 1944.
5. MARIA ISABEL O’NEILL, b. 23 Mar 1947.
HUGO O’NEILL [Heir to th chieftainry of Clannaboy], b.
7 Mar 1939. He m. Rosa Maria Empis, daughter of Raoul
Jules Empis and Luisa de Souza Coutinho (daughter of the
5th M. of Valenca, premier marques of Portugal, and 17th
C. of Redondo), and by her had issue:
1. LUIZA O’NEILL, b. 27 Jan 1964.
2. CATARINA O’NEILL, b. 17 Jan 1965.
3. MARIA ANA EMPIS O’NEILL, b. 13 Jan 1966.
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Caro Vasco
Vou reunir uns quantos documentos.
Um abraço
Artur João
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Carissimos Vasco, Artur e Nuno
Ouvi há algum tempo da boca dum ilustre estudioso das grandes famílias da Europa, muito conceituado na nossa praça, que o chefe do importante clan O'Neill era português e trabalhava na TAP. Acontece que há vários O'Neill funcionários nesta empresa. Não sei qual deles é o dito cujo.
Mas, o nosso Luís Amaral é muito naturalmente um expert nos clans familiaresda velha Irlanda. Poderá esclarecer e bem por certo, citar rigorosas fontes documentais.
abraços
MM
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Caro Vasco,
Na resenha aqui apresentada pelo Nuno Borrego é feito esse entroncamento como segue: Constantine (Conn) O'Neill, descendente de uma irmã de Aedh O'Neil (Conde de Tyrone, último Rei do Ulster, e mão de Sean (João) O'Neill, que veio para Portugal em 1740.
Do que conheço da história do Ulster, e da Irlanda em geral ( e modéstia à parte, conheço um bocado que me ficou dos meus estudos em Inglaterra) penso que é difícil falar-se em Reis da Irlanda. Há na História do Ulster inúmeros O'Neill (família do Ulster, condado que correspondia a um pouco mais da actual Irlanda do Norte, pois além dos territórios desta última, incluía também Doneghal, hoje na República da Irlanda) e são frequentemente referidos como Rei de Tir Eoghain (Tyrone em gaélico) e também como Condes do Ulster. Esta última designação era muito importante na hierarquia social e política irlandesa, até à ocupação isabelina. Ficou na história da Irlanda o célebre episódio da Fuga dos Condes do Ulster, que penso que ocorreu por essa altura.
Sei que a família O'Neill portuguesa é a representante dos O'Neill de todo o mundo, e há já mais de vinte anos, em Inglaterra, tive oportunidade de ouvir um programa na rádio em que foi entrevistado o Chefe da Família, o português Hugo O'Neill, que referiu ter uma casa em Armagh (Irlanda do Norte) e que inclusivamente, durante o nosso célebre "Verão Quente", preferia ter a família em Armagh do que em Portugal.
Tenho uma História do Ulster onde poderei procurar mais detalhes. De uma coisa não tenho dúvidas: os nosso O'Neill representam o Clan O'Neill e descendem dos Reis do Ulster.
Um abraço
Alexandre
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ERRTA 2(!) Devido à falta de um parêntesis, pode parecer que Sean O'Neill era filho do último Rei do Ulster, quando o seu pai era o referido Constantine ou Conn.
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Meus Caros,
Sou bem menos "expert" do que gostava de ser... Em todo o caso, aqui deixo um modesto contributo:
A obra "The O' Neills of Ulster-Their History and Genealogy" publicada em Dublin em 1907, de autoria de Thomas Mathews, inclui no 3º e último volume, um apêndice intitulado "The O'Neills of Portugal".
São 34 páginas que estive a reler rapidamente e de lá transcrevo (sem traduzir...):
(pg. 323):"The pedigree of the O' Neills of Portugal, ceritified by Ulster and Somerset Herald, is traced from Brian Ballagh, Prince of Clannaboy, son of Nial More, Roydama of Ulster" (...)
Segue a descrição genealógica da linhagem (com curtas biografias) até Jorge O' Neill, sobre o qual se diz:
"George O' Neill of Lisbon, The O' Neill, hereditary Prince of Ulster and of Tyrone and Clannaboy, Grand Officier of the Royal Household, Knight Grand Croiss of the Order of St. Gregory the Great, Chevalier of the Order of Malta, Comte de Tyrone, etc. (...)
His Excellency, as the senior representative of the O'Neills, assumed the Celtic title, and adopted the French "Comte de Tyrone" by agreement with his kinsman of France, Augusta Eugene Valentine O' Neill de Tyronne, who died without issue male"
(...)
"Par un pacte de famille intervenu à Paris le 14 août 1901 devant Me Kastler, notarie, à Paris, les dernières representants de la branche dite des comtes de Tyrone (...) ont pour se conformer à une tradition immémoriale, reversé sur la tête du chef da lignee Aînée, residant au Portugal, tous les titres e aqulifications, entre autres celles de Comte de Tyrone, portée, dés 1542, dans la branche française, que était la leur et se trouve aujourd' hui éteinte dans les mâles(...)".
(...)
"His Excellency, whose right to the family titles is recognized by the authorities here [Ireland] and abroad (...)
Nas páginas seguintes, são reproduzidos vários documentos e, nomeadamente, dois certificados de 1896 passados pelo Rei de Armas da Irlanda onde se diz "I, Sir Arthur Edward Vicars (...) Ulster King of Arms and Principal Herald of all Ireland (...) do hereby certify and declare that the Armorial Bearings and pedigree of Jorge O' Neill of Lisbon, a descendant of Nial the Great, Monarch of Ireland, are duly registred in the Records of my office" e, de Henry Farnham-Burke, "Somerset Herald of Arms, and Genealogist of the Most Illustrious Order of St. Patrick, do hereby certify and declare that the above pedigree of Jorge O'Neill of Lisbon (...) is faithfully extracted from the Records of the Office of Arms, Dublin, and therefore, the said Jorge O' Neill of Lisbon is a lineal descendant and representative of the Royal House of O' Neill, Monarchs of Ireland (...).
Acrescentarei apenas que tenho também em casa (não sei exactamente onde mas vou procurar...) uma revista onde se reporta um encontro (há dois anos?) dos chefes dos clans irlandeses, presidida pelo actual chefe da Família, Hugo O' Neill.
Espero que esta intervenção tenha sido de alguma utilidade.
Abraços
Luis Amaral
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Ex.mo Senhor
No «Burke's Peerage, Knightage & Baronetage», equivalente britânico do nosso «Anuário da Nobreza...», existe um belíssimo texto (de umas oito páginas, em letra minúscula) sobre os O'Neill, que inclui a sua ascendência até ao séc. IV e vários dos Ramos da Família. A representação parece ter residido em Espanha até ao séc. XX, dali passando para os «nossos» O'Neill de Santa Mónica, que também vêm citados, com um «see "Annuário da Nobreza de Portugal", que tanto nos deverá deixar orgulhosos.
Disponho da edição de 1970, onde se citam alguns documentos.
Quanto às provas documentais (tipo AATT), creio que poderá encontrar qualquer coisa no Cartório da Nobreza Britânica, cuja morada poderei tentar procurar.
Espero ter respondido à questão,
Manuel Azevedo Graça
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Meus Senhores,
As provas documentais que procuram são aquelas apontadas pelo Luis Amaral.
No Reino Unido e na Irlanda existem de facto organizações semelhantes ao nosso antigo Cartórios da Nobreza. Na Irlanda existia o Gabinete do Rei-de-Armas de Ulster, o representante da Corôa Britância para questões relacionadas com heráldica e genealogia irlandesas, registos de armas, provas de nobreza, etc.. Com a separação política da Irlanda do Norte do resto da ilha, este cargo dividiu-se. Na República da Irlanda existe hoje um Gabinete Genealógico, presidido pelo Principal Rei-de-Armas da Irlanda, um cargo político. Representa, portanto, o Estado Irlandês em todas as questões heráldicas e genealógicas na República da Irlanda. O cargo de "Ulster King of Arms" continuou brevemente naquilo que é hoje a Irlanda do Norte, mas as suas responsabilidades e arquivos foram transferidas para o "College of Arms" am Londres, que também guarda uma cópia do arquivo do Gabinete Genealógico de Dublin. Na Escócia existe o "Lyon Office", onde reside o Lord Lyon, principal Rei-de-Armas da Escócia. Em Inlgaterra temos o já referido College of Arms, presidido pelo "Earl Marshall" - um dos dois oficiais-mór da Corôa - que é um cargo hereditária dos Duques de Norfolk. O College of Arms e o Lyon Office são dependências da Corôa Britânica, e aí se encontram os registos oficias das linhagens das principais famílias do Reino Unido assim como provas de nobreza e registos de armas. Continua a ser os Reis de Armas em Inglaterra e na Escócia que oficialisam o uso de armas (individuais, corporativas, associativas, etc.) e de títulos da nobreza.
Vale a pena dar uma olhadela na página da College of Arms na internet, onde há mais informação.
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Caro Vasco,
Retomo contacto, usando pretexto de informação genealógica sobre os Torlade O'Neill, que encontrei na Torre, há tempos, e que pode ser usada para prosseguir a ascendência dos Torlade O'Neill, se este for o mesmo ramo, o que pode não ser, quer porque não parecem estes entroncar-se, sem mais, no ramo principal dos O'Neill portugueses, mas também porque tenho visto caso em que outros ramos usam apelidos que não lhes competem, por serem, quiça, mais "conhecidos":
A 5.4.1862 foi baptizada em Lisboa (Mártires), Maria, filha legítima de João Torlades O'Neill, negociante, e de D. Emília Cristina de Andrade O'Neill, aqui recebidos (fl. 5-5v do livro respectivo - MF 1596).
Abraço,
Miguel
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Caro Miguel Gorjão Henriques,
Pode fornecer alguma informação sobre os "Torlade", nomeadamente a sua origem?
Agradecido desde já.
Os meus melhores cumprimentos,
Artur Camisão Soares
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Caro Artur Camisão Soares,
Infelizmente não, até porque não prossegui na investigação desta ascendência da Menina "Maria".
Contudo, o Pai parece poder ser, cronologicamente, irmão dos Torlade O'Neill cuja linhagem se manteve ilustre até à actualidade. Por isso, o facto de os Pais terem sido "recebidos" nos Mártires antes daquela data - se o foram - deve permitir seguir a ascendência também pelo lado Torlade. Talvez até alguém da Família possa fornecer essa indicação.
Abraço,
Miguel
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Caro Miguel Gorjão Henriques,
Obrigadíssimo pela resposta.
É precisamente o lado "Torlade" um dos menos estudados. Vou envidar esforços para recolher dados e posteriormente os facultar a quem necessitar.
Um abraço,
Artur
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Caro artur41 ja ví que é cunhado de alguém importante...o mais engraçado é que chamo-me Cátia O'Neill de sou de Coimbra e infelizmente nao conheço mais nenhum O'Neill neste país se não o meu pai....visto que é familiar de Hugo bem que lhe podia pedir para organizar um convivio com todos os pertencentes do clã...
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essa lista nao está completa é obvio....pra já falta o meu pai: Fernando ´osé Marques O'Neill de Noronha nascido em 6 de julho de 1961 e eu Cátia O'Neill de Noronha nascida a 9 de Março de 1986...já era tempo de actualizarem!!!
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Caros Confrades,
Sobre o estudo da familia O`Neill, nomeadamente sobre o ramo em Portugal, ver os "Amigos da Dinamarca" de Pedro O`Neill Teixeira.
Basta fazer clique na "Livraria" acima, indicar e comprar a obra.
Cumprimentos
Fernando Figueirinhas
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Cara Cátia O'Neill,
Acabei de chegar a Lisboa e deparei-me, logo, com este tópico. Bom, não me leve a mal...mas parece gozo(se o não for apresento-lhe as minhas desculpas)!
Bom..., o facto de ser cunhado de "alguém importante" não me dá, só por si, a faculdade de fazer semelhante pedido. Não acha...?!
Meus melhores cumprimentos,
Artur Camisão Soares
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sim tem razão, apenas tenho pena de não poder ter uma relação mais próxima com parentes, principalmente sabendo que estão no mesmo país que eu....desde já as minhas desculpas pelo inconveniente...
Cátia O'Neill de Noronha
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Cara Cátia O'Neill de Noronha,
Talvez tenha sido demasiado severo consigo. Sei que o meu cunhado já foi a alguns encontros, pelo que lhe posso perguntar alguma coisa.
Ocorre-me uma questão...: o facto do meu cunhado ser um O'Neill(entre outros tantos) é/ou não mais importante do que o facto de ser professor catedrático e director de serviço...!?
Por um lado temos a pertença a uma "família" que alguns denominam de nobilíssima, por outro temos os "cargos que ocupa. Gostaria de saber qual a sua opinião, se me permite, sobre o "mérito".
Se não vir inconveniente pode-me dizer qual o seu "ramo", de forma a enriquecer o meu conhecimento?
Desde já agradecido.
Renovados cumprimentos,
Artur Camisão Soares
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caro Artur, actualmente sou estudante do 3º ano de Psicologia (digo já que pretendo tirar mestrado em Psicologia Criminal se tudo correr conforme os planos).
Acho que realmente o cargo que qualquer pessoa ocupa, é devidamente merecido pondo de parte o "bom nome". Mas nao sei se me fiz compreender com a questão que lhe coloquei anteriormente...Sei que deve ter falado com o Sr Pedro O'Neill, visto que a mãe "dele" ligou ao meu pai hoje à tarde.
Apenas achei que deve ter alguma confiança com o seu cunhado para lhe propôr um encontro de família, nada mais...bastava um não como resposta da sua parte.
desde já mando-lhe cumprimentos e uma boa continuação de semana
Cátia O'Neill de Noronha
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Cara Cátia O'Neill de Noronha,
Bom...o curso de Psicologia deve ser fascinante. Apenas tive Psicologia no Ensino Secundário, no D. João de Castro. Lembro-me, perfeitamente, que uma vez perguntei ao professor como se poderia avaliar a "normalidade" numa instituição psiquiátrica..., o que o deixou perplexo!
Agradeço-lhe a resposta relativa à questão do "mérito". Concordo, a priori, consigo. Faço uma ressalva relativamente aos cargos que são ocupados: hodiernamente, não raras vezes, tende-se a colocar a "política" à frente da "competência pessoal".
Asseguro-lhe que não falei com o Sr. Pedro O'Neill; aliás, em boa verdade, não sei a quem se está a referir.
Cátia, eu posso falar com o meu cunhado. Tenho é que saber o que se pretende, como deve calcular. Porque é que não me envia um e-mail para explanar melhor a sua pretensão?
Com os meus melhores cumprimentos,
Artur Camisão Soares
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Cara Cátia O'Neill de Noronha,
Obrigado pelo e-mail que me enviou. Vou-lhe enviar, já de seguida, um e-mail com alguns dados.
Com os meus melhores cumprimentos,
Artur Camisão Soares
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Cara Cátia,
Espero que já tenha lido os "links" e outros dados que lhe enviei.
Chamo-lhe a atenção, se me permite, para este sub-tópico: http://www.geneall.net/P/forum_msg.php?id=207581
Reitero a minha disponibilidade para a auxiliar.
Renovados cumprimentos,
Artur João
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Boa noite,
O meu nome é Madalena Kennedy e descendente da família portuguesa O'Neill. Tenho andado a pesquisar a minha ascendência com o propósito de reunir a documentação para poder fazer mudança de nome, isto é, averbar o O'Neill.
Verifiquei que existe algumas dúvidas sobre a ligação da família Torlade com a família O'Neill portuguesa e como sou descendente das duas venho assim afirmar a veracidade dessa ligação.
A minha 5ª avó D. Maria Felizarda O'Neill era filha de Carlos O'Neill (1760-1835) e de D. Ana João Torlade (1758-1824). O baptismo encontra-se no Arquvo Distrital de Setúbal, Registos Paroquiais, Setúbal, Freguesia de Nossa Senhora da Graça, Lv.B10, 1782-1792, fls. 59-59vº.
Estou muito interessada em saber mais sobre o meu ramo Torlade e a sua origem.
Se alguém tiver dados sobre esta família ficaria muito agradecida que me desse conhecimento.
Com os meus agradecimentos
Madalena Kennedy
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