"Conde Papalino" (Affonso Celso)

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"Conde Papalino" (Affonso Celso)

#37610 | aaas | 12 mar 2003 14:49

Caros Senhores,

Adquiri num alfarrabista uma pequena antologia de sonetos brasileiros (Empreza do Diário de Notícias, Lisboa, 1928).Na sucinta biografia de um dos autores apresentados - Affonso Celso -, consta o seguinte:
«Affonso Celso, conde papalino e oficial da Legião de Honra é formado em direito. Nasceu no Estado de Minas, Ouro Preto(...)».
Algum dos senhores terá alguma informação sbre esta "honraria"? Subsistirá ainda?

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R. Almeida e Sousa

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#37611 | jpcmt | 12 mar 2003 15:12 | Em resposta a: #37610

Caro Confrade:
Se procurar na net, p.ex., em: "Papal titles" encontrará várias informações. Uma, de entre muitas:

"The "Roman" Nobility
From the late Middle Ages onward, popes have granted titles of nobility. The titles, which became especially common at the end of the 16th c., became known in the early 19th c. as Roman nobility although they have less to do with Rome than with the Pope.

The titles included prince, duke, count, among others. One particular title was that of count palatine. It apparently emerged during the Avignon period, and was defined by the Trento Council as "knight of the Sacred Palace and of the Court of Laterano and palatine count". The title was associated with the Order of the Golden Spur.

During the French occupation in the Napoleonic period, Roman titles were abolished, and they were re-established on July 6, 1816. The Order of the Golden Spur, which had lost a good deal of its value by being awarded too easily, was abolished on Oct. 31, 1841 (replace with the Order of Saint-Sylvester). The title that used to accompany it was shortened to "Roman count palatine", and further simplified to "count" in 1847. The pope continued to grant titles even after 1870 and the loss of the Papal States. By the Lateran Accord of 1929, the Italian government recognized and confirmed the pope's power to grant titles, and the titles were considered equivalent to Italian titles. With the abolition of nobility in the Italian Republic in 1948, the Roman nobility was once again considered as foreign. Pius XII granted a few more titles, John XXIII confirmed some but none have been granted under Paul VI and John-Paul I.

The titles could be for life or hereditary. Typically, it was fairly easy for the holder of a life title to petition for conversion into a hereditary title. The titles were usually, but not always transmissible by male primogeniture only; there were usually, but not always granted to men."

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J. de Castro e Mello Trovisqueira

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#37714 | aaas | 14 mar 2003 10:22 | Em resposta a: #37611

Caro Senhor J. Trovisqueira,

Muito obrigado pelo cuidado e pela sugestão.
No mesmo livro tenho uma outra referência biográfica, desta vez a Carlos Laet, também ele poeta brasileiro: "(...)Conde palatino (1913) e deputado da monarquia (...)."
Na breve pesquisa que fiz, apercebi-me que tanto um "título" como o outro variaram bastante, seja quanto à sua natureza, seja ainda quanto à titulartidade de quem outorgava.

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R. Almeida e Sousa

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